Oh, and just to allay some nefarious thoughts here. No, I am not a hippie. I own guns, a lot of them. I pay taxes. I vote. I have never received or taken a government handout. I own my home (well...pay the mortgage anyway). I do not own a bicycle nor do I own any bongos or drums or the like. I have never been to Saturday Market. My car has no bumper stickers about the "man" or eating granola. I am your average middle-class citizen, that happens to be a bit of a gear-head and believes that I do exercise my political power a bit in where I spend my money. I'd like to think that by supporting my local folks, that they will support me and keep me employed as well. I am used to paying for premium gas in the past, so E85 was a wash in my budget. I realize that this does not work for everyone. I also find it entertaining, that by using a car manufacturers own technology, that I can create something that functions just the same, if not better than the original. Yet the car manufactures complain that higher mileage, efficiency, or alternative fuel sources are not that possible. I'm doing it with something they produced 20 years ago. The technology is there. They just have to be willing to rattle the system. Lastly, I think I need to expand on the emissions thing a little bit more as I didn't really put a lot of effort in the last post. E85 does burn cleaner, but there are some trade-offs. One of the major by-products of E85 is Acetyl-Aldehyde...something that is not present in gasoline. It is also one of the primary components when your body processes alcohol (smells fruity, gives you hangovers). It is no worse than what is being spewed into the air right now from gas burners, and with a catalytic converter, it is put out in minimal quantity. Worse though is formaldehyde. Which non-catalyzed, is very minimal, but with a CAT, non-existent. Something to be aware. Otherwise, CO, NOx...all way down. Just CO2 and Water mainly; normal combustion.

Workin 4 U, I have answers as I have a car converted for E85 (that only runs E85...no gasoline allowed). -A gallon of E85 locally is anywhere from 3.30 to 3.50 at times. The more north you go, it gets down to about 3.20. So it is roughly the same as premium gasoline. -My avg MPG at the moment is 24 on the highway and 19 in town. Pretty close to most cars. I have a really bad tune though...and with a few maintenance items, I expect that should be 30 highway and 24 in town within the next couple weeks. -The conversion for me was the cost of an engine and a rebuild. About $500. My vehicle though was blessed to have several engine types for that year and I mixed and match to design an engine that runs 14:1 compression and was specifically designed for E85. If I put gasoline in the car...the engine goes kaboom. -Depends on your source product. Corn is a very poor producer of ethanol, things like sugar kane and switchgrass tend to produce better yields. The only reason for corn being used in the US, is that it is highly subsidized. In the manufacturing process...location is a key. Here in the NW, we are mostly hydroelectric...so not really much for fossil fuels there. Back east...different story. Cumulatively...it is probably neutral. For more information of how it works well, check out Brazil and their fuel manufacturing. -It runs cleaner (less soot, less crap buildup in the engine) and I find it to have a lot more power to it. Turned my little gas burner into a rocket. As long as the engine is designed for it. -See above on corn. It is possible to do it without the subsidies though. Switchgrass gives about 10 times the yield in the same manufacturing cost. -For me, it is possible as my driving style keeps me in town most of the time. When I do travel, it is usually northward where more stations are located. I can get east and south with a spare can in the trunk. Not limiting, just have to plan ahead. Hope this answers some Q's.

Ethanol ruins engines and kills children. See United Nations Website April 2011 World Food Report. Horrific. It is a SCAM of corn farmers. Dustbowl coming. Jailed here in Eugene, check my personal websites...I am your neighbor, see ME in Eugene Police car: FactSite, normal 3w, com format (OSunrise). Best to Click gates of heck on humor wrappers (DoggieMcStyleLaw) or (JesusOSunrise). all relates to these Kinergy contracts...

They did NOT add new jobs. There was already a station there. They TOOK away their jobs. Quit reporting false information.

OK lets ask a couple of questions that I think anybody would have ask? How much does a gallon cost?, What would be the avg MPG for such a car as compared to a gasoline car? How much does a conversion cost? or what does a car that is designed for e-85 cost? What are the benefits? Does it take fossil fuels to make this or can you use the biofuel to make it? What would make people go to this, what are the advantages? Do they get money from the government to make this to make this look more affordable? Man in the 2 minutes I have been writing this I came up with those questions. Can a car designed for e-85 use gasoline since there are only 2 biofuel stations. I would like to be on biofuels but as you can see there are alot of unanswered questions

Okay granolas, here's your chance! Go buy up this LOCAL, low carbon footprint, sustainable, earth-friendly fuel. Buy lots so that it carries the load for the rest of us 1%er infidels!