Lane County Commissioners investigate idea of west EmX public advisory vote

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Updated: 9/27/2012 6:10 pm
EUGENE, Ore. (KMTR) – While LTD’s proposed west Eugene EmX route has earned a second vote of approval from Eugene City Council, now the Lane County Board of Commissioners is looking into the possibility of a public vote for the project.

Commissioners raised the idea of a West EmX public “advisory vote” at a Wednesday, September 27th, 2012 board meeting. The board’s staff is now investigating the legality and feasibility of putting an advisory vote on the ballot to officially measure the amount of public support for the proposed EmX route.

LTD has proposed building its third leg of the EmX bus rapid transit system on West 6th, 7th and 11th Avenues. Along 6th and 7th, the route would run between Garfield and Charnelton Streets. On 11th Avenue, the route would run between Commerce Street by Target and Wal-mart to Garfield Street.

An advisory vote would not necessarily stop LTD from building the project. The project has a green light from local governing boards and is now in the hands of the Federal Transit Administration.

However, to get the majority of the money for the West EmX project from the Federal Government, LTD has to show that there is “public support” for the project.

Theoretically, Federal Transit Administration officials could change their mind on funding the project if a vote proves support isn't there. However, they could also ignore the results of vote.

LTD hasn’t ever supported a public vote for the project because its transit projects are already governed by publicly elected boards.

The West Eugene EmX project has already passed three local governing boards, including Eugene City Council, the LTD board, and the central Lane Metropolitan Planning Committee, which reviews all projects that have federal funding attached to them.

"Our position has always been that in the past, the MPC has handled those decisions and to be consistent with that, that's the way it should go in the future, because if you open that door, again, where do you close it, not only for our projects, but for any city project, or county project that comes along,” says Andy Vobora, an LTD spokesman.

Commissioners should know more about the possibility of an advisory vote in late October 2012.

LTD says it already has an idea of what it would cost to do a public advisory vote. It investigated the matter early on in the process when much of the “No Build” protesting began. According to LTD, the Lane County Board of Commissioners staff already estimated the price tag of a public vote to cost between 100 and 500 thousand dollars.

The proposed West EmX route would cost about 95 million dollars. Up to 70 million dollars of that would come from federal funding. If approved, LTD could begin final West EmX design by the year's end and possibly open the route in January 2017.
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dtomdick - 9/29/2012 6:07 PM
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Workin 4 U, I don't think there is any theory to it, I think you hit the nail on the head. There is a certain segment of society that thinks they are the only ones that should enjoy a lifestyle that is designed by them. Everyone else becomes their slaves. It is called Progressive Liberals. Sounds sort of like Government, huh?

Workin 4 U - 9/29/2012 8:23 AM
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Here is my conspiricay theory: Build bus lines, make cars to expensive for low and middle class to operate. Thereby the only method of transportation is the bus lines then you can control the people.

justme - 9/28/2012 1:53 PM
1 Vote
So they are going to go at this "project" at snails pace and maybe be done by 2017?!!!!???? What year are we in now??? By then we'll need to start with real live rapid transit. I wonder of the cost to run and maintain these prehistoric creatures....I want a vote!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whitehawk - 9/28/2012 5:03 AM
3 Votes
Where ever do they come up with these money figures? Last census there were 150,000 folks living in Eugene. Say that maybe 90,000 of them are registered voters.Postage would run around $37,000. Envelopes less than that..paper that the vote info was printed on.maybe a few thousand bucks.. Far less than the quoted figures in this story..Where do they get $100-500k for cost? I want to see a break down on that one. There have been polls done by a number of news media sources here in Eugene. Those polls showed that the majority of folks do NOT want this EMX .I commend the Lane County Commissioners for thinking about us..the people..

justme - 9/27/2012 9:39 PM
4 Votes
Yes thank the counsel for going against the publics' wishes, at the very least the people should be able to vote, but they fear if it goes to vote the majority would vote against the proposal. We simply don't want that big ole enlongated bus that only has 2 more seats than the regular buses, and lacks less bike carriers. It's contantly in the way, and no reason to have such a lengthly bus. STOP the waste, stop the insanity, the people don't want!

Hallyscomet - 9/27/2012 8:51 PM
3 Votes
The opposition knows the truth about the West Eugene EmX. This project is about self-preservation for LTD’s administrative staff and their under-funded retirement account. Government may always seem to waste money, but when they waste money and negatively impact a city in doing so, the community will rise-up against them. ODOT and the FTA have grown tired of the City of Eugene after the parkway fiasco, and now LTD’s flawed process and NEPA violating assessment. The FTA has got to know this plan will never be worth the money and impacts. Any lay-person can see that wishful EmX ridership predictions will never offset taking lanes on 6th & 7th, and running 80+ EmX round trips in mixed traffic, through ODOT’s 28th worst state highway choke-points. Yes, the EmX works great on the Franklin route (it’s a glorified school bus), but as Jarrett Walker pointed out, the WEE travels to the edge of town where there is no population mass. The City has not managed LTD correctly. The council never should have told LTD to plan a route on West 11th, there simply isn’t the room. Also note, the EmX bus will block a traffic lane at bus stops at Wendy's and Papa Murphy's.

bbBear - 9/27/2012 7:47 PM
7 Votes
Angelgabe-----Did you really expect anything else from a liberal establishment. Our marvelous mayor threw out what the voters voted in, the west Eugene bypass, and now we have these 2 bit politicians trying to force other agenda to their liking down our throats. We really need new leadership. We need to get rid of these people and get fresh, responsible, people listening people in place. Got that voters!!!!!!! Get these people out of office!

angelgabe - 9/27/2012 7:35 PM
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As I have, and MANY others have said, too: THIS NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT TO A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE! Stop ramming it down our throats against all our wishes. And as said earlier on another story about EMX: I’d like to know how to begin impeachment on all those who voted in favor of this. Even when NO ONE is in favor of this monster of a bus system, they totally disregarded the comments of THE PEOPLE THEY SUPPOSEDLY REPRESENT, and did what THEY wanted. All, in my opinion, for the money they will get from the Federal Government (Uhm, that is coming out of OUR pockets, AGAIN!) We need to fire all of these guys and start over. This is no longer a city that is based on a democracy, but it is a policed state. We have, apparently, NO SAY. Not ONCE did I EVER see ANY pro-EMX literature, posters, banners, etc. It has ALL been negative, and completely against this. I’m furious that this was shoved down our throats against the public’s will and obvious wishes.
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