xr600 apprently did not get my point, also. "(!?)," after my initial statements, was used to denote facetiousness (that notation and similar are commonly used as such). I used "reverse" methodology to point out that we don't "all just get along" (uttered by Rodney King, and followed by the Watts Riot). I live in rural Lane County (not Eugene, but actually close to Cougar Reservoir and Terwilliger Springs), am a former Marine - and, unlike most US citizens, who waved at peace officers after the attacks on the World Trade Center, etc., and then lapsed on that, I always wave at peace officers to acknowledge that they put their lives at risk, most often while being of assistance to others. Of course, with the paucity of funding for safety in Lane County, I currently don't wave much.

Responding to xr600, I apparently did not get my point across. I referred to the management as being ineffective due to their inability to teach and use proper patrol technique. As fars as PERS, the Sheriff and his nco's are definitely part of the PERS System. As a former policeman and ex OSP Sergeant I know a little about patrol technique, however we did not have unions then and did not get overtime as state employees in the 60's. We did not head for the barn as soon as the buzzer ran, you stayed with whatever you were working on until it was done, or at least to a point it could be effectively taken up later. I am not trying to argue I just think that if you were to dig a little deeper and look into what is happening with all Government employees and there benefits as vs the private sector, you will be astonished at some of the information. Have a nice day, and eventually I may meet you in the food line unless you are a member of PERS.

Being the neighbor in between the indivdual and the residence were this happened. This is what I was worried about its not a "BUDGET" problem up on Cedar Flat. It's our home, our lives. We feel unsafe. We feel like a nuisance to lane county dis batch.ITS a HALF A DECADE PROBLEM! Calls been made for YEARS it was a matter of time and its to bad that its being used as an example of budget issues. Us ones owning homes in between just trying to live our lifes have less rights then the ones involve. Its really bigger then the incident and the shooting and since it hasnt been talked about by the police i wont go any further..Im sure other people have similar situations in Lane county Jurisdiction

Fisherman, Carlito Rey and da1woody must all live in Eugene. They don't care about their fellow citizens that live in the rural areas. Hey, fisherman, how about you try to deal with a hostile, armed subject that's jacked up on meth and see how you react. Would you just stand there and let him shoot you? I don't know you personally, but my guess is you would change your mind about shooting first and asking questions later real quick. An officer has to WORK OFF THE FACTS KNOWN AT THE TIME and make a split second decision if it's me or them. Give them a break. They've got a tough job to do. And for about $20 an hour. An electrician or a plumber can make more than them, not have to deal with getting shot at or getting AIDS or HEP B getting stuck with a dirty needle patting down an IV drug user. These people are protecting you whether you like it or not. The trend that I've seen is that this place is not becoming a "policestate" (that's a buzzword that the "Occupy" crowd likes to use to try to get people outraged). This place is becoming too light on crime and lawyers are running the show trying to get people to feel sorry for the criminals. Sorry you had a rough childhood and your mommy buy you a Nintendo, but that's no excuse for robbing/raping/murdering. The whole justice system is broken. The only part that's working are the law enforcement officers that respond to calls and take reports only to be second guessed by clowns like you three (Not you rgl1345) and have the individual that they just arrested get released before they are finished with their paperwork. I hope you three (again, not you rgl1345) never need LCSO to come to your rescue when your '69 Volkswagen bus slides off the road on your way to Terwilliger Hot Springs. No one will be able to respond to your location because there are only six patrol deputies working a county the size of Conneticut.

I think the fisherman is a moron and i hope when you need help, they are not there for you. I have listened to them having to drive from Veneta to CG for a damn call...all this because this county is full of cheap clowns like the fish man. The county and city spend too much time on attempted suicides..they should be low priority. Both city and county waste time and effort stopping cars only to hear the officer say "Advised"..If your gonna stop them..ticket them!! Veneta needs 1 full time deputy...park him in the trailer court and he will be busy all night...same with Springfield and Cottage Grove

hi new here go easy on me.Maybe if the police were more in tune to what we the tax payers want they might get more help from us tax payers

Yeah, we don't need police intervention. It's obvious that everyone knows how to "just get along" and can self-resolve issues peacefully(!?) I wonder how many people, who say that we are becoming a police state, keep "guard dogs" and own weapons (becoming kind of a 'vigilante state'); because of the flux that is 'humanity,' there will never be a perceived "happy medium" between self-protection and the need for outside assistance (and, this is not said to counter others' opinions on the matter, just my commentary on a sad situation).

I want to hear the real story ---sounds like a an advertisement for more cops if anything,we are becoming a police state as it is, shoot then ask questions,cowboys.